Please welcome today's very special guests.
Lee Moon Shik, Choi Jung Won, Moon Hee Jun,
Yuk Sung Jae, Kangnam and Sayuri.
It's great to see you.
- You're sitting according to color. - That's right.
Please don't talk like that.
Did I sound weird?
You did a bit.
- We haven't seen guests wearing green. - Exactly.
Men who have served in the army will agree with me.
We don't like green.
I've thrown out all my old green clothes
and yet, I was told to wear green today.
Green is new. This is another odd grouping.
- Carbon Copies, introduce our guests. - Absolutely.
- They practiced for four hours. - Four hours?
Hello, we are Carbon Copies.
Today's show is
- the Hardship Special. - That's right.
- We'll introduce our guests now. - Okay.
Five, six, seven, eight.
It was a mistake to appear on variety shows
No one cares about what we think
We want our actor images back
These two traveled abroad for a variety show
and now they know what it means to suffer.
The two brave souls, Lee Moon Shik and Choi Jung Won.
- Shall we continue? - Definitely.
Moon Hee Jun was a member
of the legendary boy band, H.O.T.
What does he think when he sees BTOB's Sung Jae?
If only it were me
When he sees Sung Jae who can sing, dance and act?
If only it were me
However, they look out for each other and give advice.
It's Moon Hee Jun and Yuk Sung Jae.
Hai, hai, hai
Kangnam and Sayuri are on TV often these days
but shouldn't they watch what they say?
"Oh, I apologize. I wasn't careful enough."
- Why weren't you? - "We both had lost our minds."
- What? - "We just love variety shows too much."
These oddballs are always dropping bombshells
but at least they're getting noticed now.
It's the popular duo, Kangnam and Sayuri.
- It's the Hardship Special. - Right.
These two had a terrible time filming a variety show.
Those two are having a hard time in the army.
These two are from another country
and they're having a hard time on variety shows.
And those two haven't adjusted to our show.
Our part gets edited out a lot.
That's just one of the problems.
- Myung Soo is suffering with married life. - You too.
We are the champions
You're on the variety show "Brave Family".
- The second episode airs this week. - That's right.
- It's popular. - Definitely.
I've never been that popular in two weeks.
Can you tell us about the show?
Myung Soo, Jung Won, actress Shim Hye Jin,
singers Min Hyuk and Seol Hyun, and I
went to TonlÃ© Sap in Cambodia.
Okay. You were in the floating house.
- We struggled because of the dirty water. - I see.
It looks like you had the most sufferings, Moon Shik.
- I did? - He almost looked like the locals.
- Jung Won suffered more. - Did she?
- I can't tell at all. - Your face...
- How did it get so fair? - Your skin is clear.
- Did you have a good time? - This is so upsetting.
- What is it? - While we were in Cambodia,
- sometimes, it felt like hell. - Did it really?
It's worse for women because of
the toilet and shower facilities and living conditions.
People said, "You had a hard time? I couldn't tell."
- It looked amazing. - Cameras don't film the toilet.
- You look like you struggled. - You look miserable.
I bet he put on makeup to look worse.
- Jung Won looks relaxed. - He wants to look worse.
- She looks like she went to a spa. - She does.
It's like she'd gone to Cebu.
The show didn't air the worst parts.
- The toilet is just a hole over the water. - Right.
You can hear anything you let drop.
Korea's old countryside toilets were like that too.
- Anything you let go, you can hear. - I bet.
It must be so gross.
A few seconds later, something floats back up.
Whatever hits the water causes a splash.
All that is visible from where we do the dishes.
- You look disgusted. - I want to throw up.
Do we have to keep listening?
- That's how people live. - We throw up in the river.
- That's how they live. - Really?
- The locals live like that. - It's their lifestyle.
- You never know until you experience it. - Right.
Our writers conduct pre-show interviews
and Moon Shik's no exception.
They were mesmerized by his smile.
- They're in love with him now. - So I've heard.
He has Tiffany's smile.
- He smiles with his eyes. - What?
- Tiffany, Tiffany. - He does look like Tiffany.
You should join Girls' Generation.
Tiffany does this when she smiles.
- Would you do that for us? - He's cute.
It's the crescent moon smile.
- He has a cute smile. - He does.
He has a small build, too
so everyone knows him as the cute older brother.
- Really? - Yes, they do.
We stayed in a floating home and it was very hot.
- He was always in a sleeveless shirt. - Why?
- He's ready to strip. - He's fit.
He has a six-pack.
- I don't. - He's very fit.
- He has a great body. - I have a great face, too.
We really can't judge people from their face.
You must be working out.
Jung Won, is this your first time on "Happy Together"?
- Weren't you on with some actresses? - Were you?
I was on the Chuseok Special, Metal Trays Karaoke.
If it's Metal Tray Karaoke, that would be 10 years ago.
- It was over 10 years ago. - It was.
- You were on the Chuseok Special. - I see.
- How old is she exactly? - Exactly?
- Metal Tray Karaoke... - It's a show from long ago.
They did it as a special episode.
- Sung Jae, do you know Metal Tray Karaoke? - Do you?
I watched it in elementary school.
- You get hit if you can't sing. - That's the one.
- You look like someone. - I get that a lot.
He looks like Seo In Guk.
- That's why he looked familiar. - Seo In Guk.
You look just like him.
- Why are we... - That's why he looked familiar?
Do you even know who Seo In Guk is?
Moon Hee Jun was in H.O.T. back then.
- I don't know anyone else. - Don't you know Kangnam?
Kangbuk or Kangnam, whatever.
Was that a joke you came up with?
- How about Sayuri? - I don't know her.
- Do you really not? - I don't but I heard Japan...
- She's Japanese. - She speaks fluent Korean,
so I wondered what kind of name "Sayuri" is.
Moon Shik doesn't have a TV at home.
- He doesn't watch TV. - Does he read, then?
- He listens to the radio. - Kangnam, do you know him?
No, I don't know this old guy.
That was rebelling.
Is this because I called him "Kangbuk"?
There's Kangnam and Kangbuk.
You're wearing black socks with a pink robe.
That's what dads do.
It's not suit socks.
"Dad, I should've checked your socks."
- Buy some socks. - I just wore what I was wearing.
Jung Won, how have you been?
I liked your recent drama.
I had a break of sort.
A break? For 10 years?
- No, she acted in some dramas. - She was, right?
- I was asking about variety shows. - You were?
- I didn't want to get into variety shows. - Why not?
It's difficult, and I still haven't adjusted well yet.
- I feel the same way. - You're both doing so well.
You two are very funny that other guests can't talk.
What, us?
We should've moved on by now, but we didn't.
I'm going mad here.
I'm dying to talk.
- And Sung Jae has so much to say. - Hang in there.
We just started with Jung Won.
Pretty celebrities are rarely funny, but she's both.
Jung Won is very cheerful and stands out.
- And you don't age at all. - I don't?
- She's quite old. - I was surprised.
She doesn't look her age at all.
Don't ask how old she is.
When we started shooting "Brave Family",
we hadn't decided if she would play Hye Jin's sister
or my oldest daughter.
She isn't that much younger...
- She wanted to play my daughter. - She did?
If I'm to be her father, I had her way too early.
- The show should come first. - She's pretty old.
- I insisted even if it was absurd. - I see.
- So you play his daughter? - You say you insisted...
- but the crew... - I suggested she play the aunt.
The others gave in to you.
Why are you laughing?
- She's like this. - You're perfect for variety show.
You laugh randomly.
- It piques our interest. - We should take cues.
I met her once about 10 years ago.
- 10 years ago? - About then, yes.
Most of her stories go back to 10 years ago.
I met her 10 years ago and she still looks the same.
- She hasn't changed. - She hasn't aged at all.
- I can't really tell. - You have no wrinkles.
- It's fascinating. - I shouldn't laugh, then.
- I don't want wrinkles. - She has lovely skin.
Hee Jun, thank you for waiting.
I've been sitting here like a Christmas tree
all because I'm wearing green.
- Well... - You're perfect for variety shows.
Are you and Sung Jae really close?
We're on the army show together
and I was on "Immortal Songs", too.
So we crossed paths often.
- You joined the army show together. - Yes, we did.
This is what it feels like to me.
Jae Suk helped Myung Soo grow as an entertainer.
I want to do that for Sung Jae.
He's talented and I want to help him.
I can't help Myung Soo grow as an entertainer.
How can I help someone grow when I myself...
You wouldn't know, but I was more popular 15 years ago.
- He was the popular celebrity. - I was back then.
- Really? - He was.
- He looked down on me. - Really?
- Is that true? - I didn't even look at him.
A lot of people don't know me yet.
- Introduce yourself. - May I?
- You're the next Moon Hee Jun. - Introduce yourself.
- Let's listen. - He's a fun guy.
- Go on, then. - Hello, "Born to Beat".
I'm the youngest member of BTOB...
Stop saying things like that.
You can't do things like that on variety shows.
- I have to promote BTOB. - Try again.
Are you the youngest?
Since we're talking about idol introductions,
- H.O.T. had a formal greeting. - Us?
Show us. Please.
H.O.T. started the whole greetings tradition.
I think we told a story.
We mentioned what we wanted.
Hello, we're H.O.T.
Make us popular.
H.O.T.'s "Make us popular" caused a huge fuss.
Isn't H.O.T. an acronym like BTOB?
- Something teenagers... - "High-five Of Teenagers."
- Thank you for remembering. - And BTOB?
- Our group name... - What does "BTOB" stand for?
It's "Born to Beat". We were born to beat.
- They just made it up. - What about "M.I.B"?
We had it changed so many times.
At first, it stood for "Most Incredible Busters".
Then it stood for "Money In the Building".
Then it stood for "Men In Black".
- "Men In Black". - We wanted to do black music.
I don't understand why they all fail.
- Show us your official greeting. - M.I.B's greeting.
- On a music show... - "Hello."
"Hello, Mr. Producer."
- No, M.I.B's greeting. - What you say on stage.
- Something like "Born to Beat". - Like what he did.
- We don't have that. - You don't?
- "Hello, Mr. Producer." - Why do you say that?
Don't you ever greet the viewers as a group?
Oh, after a show?
- "Bye, Mr. Producer." - No, not that.
We really don't have a greeting.
- What do you say on stage? - "We're M.I.B. BTOB."
- Even we have a greeting. - We didn't do that.
- I don't know of one. - That's odd.
Maybe that's why M.I.B is not popular.
Even BTOB has one.
- Is Yuk Sung Jae your real name? - It is.
- "Yuk" is a surname? - It's based in Okcheon.
Apparently, Sung Jae is a talented young man.
We make rookie stars show us their talents.
What a start.
I can do an impersonation of Kim Dong Ryul.
- Kim Dong Ryul? - I'll sing.
I am a man
Who was not able to give you everything
He sounds just like him.
We let go too soon
The love we had was...
Are you on "Music Bank"?
He's good.
- You sound like him. - You do.
- I was reaching the climax. - He's so good.
He's good at other uncool things.
I told him not to sing that song.
- Show them the fish. - The fish?
- He can imitate fish. - Fish?
- He imitates wildlife? - Wait, fish?
- It's hilarious. - I never saw someone do the fish.
- I'll show you a carp. - A carp?
It's really funny.
- A carp? - What are we looking at?
I think I know what that is. When you catch a carp...
- There's one more. - I can do a pigeon.
- A pigeon? - A pigeon eating feed.
A pigeon.
It looks like the real thing.
The pigeon is my favourite.
Hee Jun debuted many years ago
but there was a time when he was a rookie.
What did you entertain your fans with?
Do you remember or still do anything from back then?
I did a lot of things, but they were old ones.
- We want to see some old ones. - Do you really?
I was a huge H.O.T. fan.
Whatever shows H.O.T. was on,
Hee Jun would take the mic and say,
"I'll show you what I can do. Here's the Bottom Dance."
This one?
- Show us the Bottom Dance. - The Bottom Dance?
- I came up with that when I was 13. - Did you?
I never imagined I'd still be doing it at 38.
I thought I'd stop doing it in my 20s.
- Are you 38? - I turn 38 this year.
Are you okay with the floor?
- This is a great floor. - Is it?
- It's bouncy. - Wooden floors are great.
I heard it hurts your tail bone.
- Let's see if I still have it. - It's been a while.
- I only saw this on TV. - Don't sit on your mic.
- Watch. - It's from "Candy".
H.O.T., H.O.T., H.O.T.
Moon Hee Jun, you can do it.
- He still has it. - He still has it in him.
- Oh dear, my poor back. - The moves...
- You still have it. - It not easy at his age.
- Are you okay? - He can still dance.
- The song sounds great even now. - It is.
I'd like to know if H.O.T. will get back together.
- g.o.d has. - Everyone wants to know.
- I want you to. - Don't you talk about it? You must.
You simply need to say either "yes" or "no".
- I want an answer. - She's a fan.
- She's such a huge fan. - I want a comeback.
- Is it a possibility? - Tell us.
I've been saying this for 10 years now.
All I can say is that we all want a comeback,
- but there's so much to consider. - So we wait.
I've said that for 10 years now.
- Honestly, we're a little perverted. - How so?
- I won't listen. - What do you mean?
- The H.O.T. members... - She's loving this.
Someone printed an article about us once,
about us having secret comeback discussions.
"A company will pay 10 million dollars"
"for H.O.T. to return."
When we saw that, we decided not to make a comeback.
Why not? It's 10 million dollars.
- Did you want 100 million dollars? - We didn't want
people thinking we returned for the money.
- We didn't want... - That image?
- That's cool. - We cherish our team very much.
When I'm on a variety show, I forget I was in H.O.T.
I get emotional if I remember those days.
In those days, I could pick what colour to wear.
- Now you can't. - A lot has changed.
Now you must wear what you're given.
I personally wanted to wear pink.
I couldn't even bring it up in the interview.
I said, "Pink looks cute"
but the writer said, "Okay, you wear green" and left.
I just said "Okay" quietly and changed.
He was allowed to pick the colour back then.
I could. The writers would ask, "Which do you want?"
I leave that memory at home.
- There is a higher possibility now. - Really?
- g.o.d... - I was told not to say that.
- Don't say it. - g.o.d made a successful comeback.
- It was so successful. - H.O.T. would do well, too.
- That sounds exciting. - Does it?
- I was a fan, too. - Saying that doesn't help.
- No, we may consider it if she wants it. - Really?
Do you want us to return? If you do...
Will H.O.T. make a comeback for Jung Won?
- She's been waiting for 20 years. - A 20-year fan...
I'm so upset.
I'm really upset.
It was a pity when
- H.O.T. wasn't on "Infinite Challenge". - Right.
BTOB, try not to break up too soon.
They're just getting started.
Are you jinxing them?
- They just started off. - Consider this a lesson.
- How many members in BTOB? - We have seven members.
- Seven members. - That's a lot.
How about giving him some advice?
- Tips on sticking together. - I'd appreciate that.
- Did you sign the contract together? - We did.
That's a good start.
If the members signed on different dates,
- negotiating becomes a pain. - That's very detailed.
You have a point.
It's great if you all signed on the same day.
Is there even one member who doesn't get along
- or stands out? - There must be.
He isn't answering so there must be.
Is there anyone you feel uncomfortable talking to?
- It's not a bad thing. - One you're less close with.
If everyone gets along perfectly,
it's easy to stay together as a group.
It's not about whether the person is good or bad.
- It's about whether you get along. - You're right.
If one member doesn't get along with the others,
- another member has to mediate. - As a go-between.
Someone has to go between the members
and try to reduce any miscommunication.
Hee Jun, was that your role?
I tried very hard to do that.
Which one of you was the unique one?
- The unique character. - The one you didn't like.
- Not the one you didn't like. - Oil and water.
- Who stood out the most? - Musical differences?
- It's all in the past. - Musical differences exist.
Is he still working?
He's a pretty good fighter.
Jang Woo Hyuk, Jang Woo Hyuk. It's Jang Woo Hyuk.
Jang Woo Hyuk...
Is he the one with the pointy chin?
We last met up about six months ago.
We met for a drink.
We met up at a Japanese-style bar
and he ordered a really strong drink.
He didn't talk and just said, "Give me that."
- Then he drank it. - How manly.
Then he slammed his hand on the table
and said, "Talk about me once more and you're dead."
He'd warned you yet you just did it!
- Hee Jun mentioned him. - Again.
If you don't see me on TV next week,
please remember this.
- I died for your show. - You're an entertainer.
- A true entertainer. - I should go into hiding.
Kangnam and Sayuri are here as friends.
- Are you actually close? - We're very close.
How so?
- We talk every day. - Do you?
You can't have been friends for long.
- We met long ago. - Before your debut?
- Before this man here became famous. - "This man."
Is that true, Kangnam?
- We weren't that... - Say we were close.
"Say we were close."
- We are close. - Are you?
We're close but not enough to mention it on TV.
You're wearing the same colour, aren't you?
- We are close. - That's why you're here.
But not enough to mention it on TV.
- Have you ever suffered together? - We have.
- When? - Whenever he needed a celebrity friend,
he called me.
- Why? - I appeared on TV as his friend for no pay.
I went there as a loyal friend.
It was a game show and we had to kiss on a bridge.
I kissed you, right?
- Why don't I remember that? - We kissed.
Anyway, we did.
- But the whole thing got cut out. - They edited it.
Anything I film with Kangnam gets cut out.
Why do you think that is?
Anything you're both in gets cut?
What about today? Will it be an exception?
I doubt we'll be shown much.
- How many years do you go back? - Us?
- Three, four years? - Three, four years.
It's not too long, then.
- A while. - Everything is from your point of view.
- Do you meet up for meals? - Yes, we do in Hongdae.
- It was two, three times. - Twice?
- Two, three times? - It was five times. I always pay.
- What's your age difference? - How old are you?
- I was born in 1979. - Were you? 1987.
Why are you just asking each other's age now?
- Did they just meet? - Didn't you know?
We're foreigners so we didn't care.
- Foreigners... - I am like nuna, older sister.
How did you become friends?
- We went to the same hair salon. - I see.
I noticed someone who looked like a bad guy.
- A bad guy? - He looked like one.
- That was me? Really? - Yes, you.
I was like that?
I saw him from a distance so I went like this.
- He looked Japanese and Korean. - I'm mixed.
And he started talking rude to me.
- What did he say? - "Are you Japanese or what?"
She's a fraud. She's a fraud!
- I didn't say that! - You did.
Gosh, she's scary. Don't believe her.
- "Are you Japanese?" - Didn't you say that?
- Anyone can tell she's older. - Let's hear her out.
I feel stressed. Is this how you want to do it?
- Let her finish. - Okay, you can finish.
- What then? - I said, "Yes, I am. Who are you?"
He said his mum is Korean and dad is Japanese.
- We said hi and exchanged numbers. - Right there?
Yes. That's when we started texting and talking.
- I was his counsellor. - What did you talk about?
- We talked about his love life. - His love life?
He dated when he was in M.I.B?
- There was one-sided love too. - It was unrequited?
I gave him advice on how he should approach a girl
- and other things. - It must be true.
Kangnam, did you ask for her advice?
I did.
- What about "Are you Japanese?" - You said that.
I did not. I used honorifics.
What did you say, then?
"Hello, Madam, may I ask how old are you?"
"Where are you from?"
No, you asked if I'm Japanese without honorifics.
- They remember it differently. - What happened?
- She didn't have any make-up on. - Was she pretty?
She was so ugly.
Let me explain.
- I couldn't tell if she was a miss... - She's cute.
I couldn't tell if she was a Miss or a Mrs.
Gosh, you really are a jerk.
- "A Miss or a Mrs." - I was confused.
- It wasn't because she was pretty? - Gosh, no.
He still talks informally with me.
You just became friends because you're Japanese?
That and also because we have mutual friends.
But he's sweet and gentle.
He changed now that he's popular.
What were things like before you were popular?
- I can spend five, six dollars for a meal. - A meal?
- You couldn't go over? - Now it's up to 12 dollars.
- Per meal? - My agency is crazy.
- What do you eat? - I eat pho, Vietnamese noodles.
- But you're Japanese? - I love pho.
- Japanese likes noodles. - It's 10 dollars.
- And the rest? - They don't mind.
- They don't complain anymore. - What did they say?
"Why do you eat something that expensive?"
- Now... - Things have changed.
Why do you think you're so popular now?
You weren't before.
- Why do you think? - You're cute and honest.
- Is he? - I'm cute?
- You are. - No, you're not.
Hee Jun, why do you think he's popular?
I think the editors favour him.
I think you're right. You have a point.
He sometimes says things I think are too boring for TV
but he's so good to the crew.
- He's always so polite. - Then the editors...
- He's a good person. - I see.
He says things on set that I think are inappropriate.
I caught an episode of our show one day.
It really looks like Sae Ho doesn't say much.
Am I on bad terms with the producer?
- But then my role is to be the funny guy. - It is.
I'd like to go back to Moon Shik.
You're an actor, but why don't you have a TV?
- I have one. I just don't watch it. - Why not?
My children go to an alternative school.
I don't want to expose them to TV shows or games.
Why alternative schooling?
I don't want them to become like me.
- How is that? - What do you mean?
I believe that children their age should play.
- That's nice. - If they study, they can't play.
- Did you study a lot? - I did.
There wasn't much I could do because of my looks.
I chose alternative schooling so they'd be different.
What were your first impressions of each other?
Did you meet for the first time in "Brave Family"?
- Yes, we did. - You had never even met in a drama?
- No. - I didn't know who had been cast.
I'd met Myung Soo before so that wasn't a problem.
I'd met Hye Jin on the film set for "Green Fish".
- In a film? - "Green Fish"...
She was the lead, and I was a thug.
- You two met 20 years ago. - Yes, we did.
She doesn't remember me because
I was arguing with Han Suk Gyu in a train and
- she was far away. - She was the leading actress.
Yes. I was a minor actor, not even a supporting role.
Anyway, now you play husband and wife on TV.
- Fate works in mysterious ways. - What about her?
- She knew me. - You didn't know me until we met.
I was expecting musical actress, Choi Jung Won.
I thought she's a bit too old to play my daughter.
"No way she can be my daughter."
But when I showed up for the meeting, I met Jung Won.
I hadn't watched any of her dramas.
Jung Won, you must've known him.
I did but only through his works.
I thought he would be a funny person
- but he's also surprisingly knowledgeable. - Is he?
- He's also sincere. - He studied a lot.
I was surprised.
When we interviewed Moon Shik,
- he said that you're a snob. - Am I?
She looks angry.
- Isn't it good to be snobbish? - Is it?
- What gave you that impression? - We'd just met
and she has to care about her appearance as an actress.
She's an actress, so she has to.
- You're pretty. - You're pretty even without make-up.
I guess she still has to worry about it.
I was very bothered because I didn't wear any make-up.
I kept asking the crew how I looked.
- If you looked okay? - "Do I? Are you sure?"
"How will I look on film?"
I'd never revealed my face without make-up on TV before.
- Then it's understandable. - I felt exposed,
so I'd sometimes look into a mirror
but sometimes, I didn't even go near one.
You did that because you knew you'd be bothered.
The living conditions were so poor that
I really couldn't care anymore how I looked later on.
If that's what she calls "couldn't care", she's a snob.
We were supposed to do something with the fish.
- She couldn't find her shoes. - It was hilarious.
Min Hyuk and I were eating in a corner.
We had to sell fish yet she kept looking for her shoes.
I said they'd show up when the crew cleared out
but she kept searching anyhow.
- That got me upset. - Why?
I was worried because my shoes were missing
but these two just went about their jobs.
They said, "They'll show up sooner or later."
They had to be somewhere.
- It was just us anyway. - Did you find them?
- She did after 20 minutes. - If you lose something,
you'd raise your voice and ask people.
Her voice doesn't change. "Where are my shoes?"
Then a while later, she said, "Where are my shoes?"
I'll sum it up for you.
Raising your voice like Myung Soo means you're looking.
If you talk like her, you want others to find it.
- She wanted attention. - She's saying, "Help me."
- She says she exposed herself. - She didn't care.
She thinks she couldn't possibly be a snob.
- But Moon Shik feels she's a snob. - From outer space.
How are you usually like in real life?
- It's different from snobbery. - Is it?
- I think I... - I know Shim Hye Jin.
- She can't stand things like that. - She yelled.
"Are you going on a date? Slapping cream everywhere."
She spoke in a softer tone.
We can't delete what you already said.
I'll try again.
"Are you going on a date? What's the cream for?"
We'll use the previous one.
That sounded better.
They're complete opposites. Jung Won is scared of her.
- I'm friends with Hye Jin. - She's scary.
- We're high school classmates. - Are you?
I think you're the type of person that
she would've scolded a lot.
We had to care about looks and relationships.
- Jung Won and Seol Hyun must've cried a lot. - Yes.
They argued with their mum all the time.
They'd cry over chopped onions or in the corner.
- Hye Jin made them cry. - They couldn't stop crying.
She wanted to get some boyfriend advice.
"Do you think this is the time to discuss boyfriends?"
"Well, I am getting on in age, so..."
"Everyone ages at the exact same pace."
- She's very realistic. - She's so scary.
If this were a real family, we'd all have run away.
Doesn't Myung Soo fart a lot?
- Is he like that all the time? - Me?
- He has issues. - We can talk about him all night.
- So much happened in five days. - This means four.
You put up four fingers for five days.
- It's five days. - Moon Shik, four isn't five.
What else gave you a hard time?
- Jung Won, what... - I have something.
- Wasn't the floor like this? - Yes, it was.
Cockroaches come through the cracks like in films.
- They swarm together. - It's like a real plague.
- The floor was like this. - They get into your hair.
They get into your clothes.
They move in hoards.
- It's not just a few. - Is it like a black cloud?
So much happened to Myung Soo.
We were cooking one day.
I said, "You're a comedian. Make me laugh."
He said, "Do you want me to?" Then he slapped me.
I didn't see that.
- He slapped you? - Yes, he did.
- To be funny? - What?
Now he laughs when he sees my hand.
Whenever he sees me, he asks, "Do you want to laugh?"
There was this issue about whether I hit Seol Hyun.
They both saw me, and it wasn't like that.
I got carried away acting like an uncle.
People will understand when the episode airs.
I'm worried.
You said you don't care about the media.
- You don't care about that. - He's very cautious.
- He is very sensitive. - Something else happened.
We were given 60,000 Cambodian riel, which isn't much.
That's three, four dollars per person.
A can of soda is 4,000 riel, which is a dollar.
We had to earn money for food and supplies
so we took selfies with the tourists for money.
We'd brought a camera with us.
It's called a photo... Pono...
- A Polaroid. - A Polaroid.
- "A ponoroid"? - Where'd all the studying go?
You aren't knowledgeable at all.
- Five days. - "We were there for five days."
It went downhill from there.
Hee Jun and Sung Jae, you two...
We're finally back with you again now.
These two are great on variety shows.
It's Korea against Japan, so do your best.
- We can't lose. - Why make this uncomfortable?
- Hee Jun. - You're making him feel uncomfortable.
This isn't a competition.
You gave a long interview. Talk about that.
How were your first impressions?
I first met him on a show of mine where
I meet idols every week.
- He looks so normal. - He's good-looking.
- Thank you. - We started shooting and
from the minute he started talking, he wasn't normal.
My show is rated 15 and above, but I said,
- "Weirdo" about 20 times. - Really?
- He looks so average. - I'd never imagine that.
- He's very odd. - My fans call me "YHW".
- "YHW"? - It means...
- "Yuk Sung Jae Handsome Weirdo." - "YHW."
- I'm also called "Yuk-tizen". - What does that mean?
"Yuk Sung Jae Netizen". I surf the net a lot
- so I know a lot of slang words. - Do you?
Teach us a few, then.
- Do you know "YEIOO"? - "YEIOO"? What's that?
- I never heard of it. - Should we guess?
- "YEIOO." - What could that mean?
- "You're either in or out." - You're in or out.
- Is that right? - Yes, it is.
He's smart.
I'm not that old.
- How did you know that? - How did you know?
- I had no idea. - What else could it be?
- Do you watch TV in secret? - Is he always online?
- This one is harder. "LBSU." - I don't know that.
- "LBSU"? - Jung Won, "LBSU".
- A pretty button? - A pretty button?
- Now I know how you think. - "LBSU."
- Can you guess? - "Little boy serving you."
- What does it mean? - "LBSU" means
"Long-distance Beauty, Short-distance Ugly."
You guess how people look from behind.
- So someone like Shin Young... What? - What?
I'm sorry.
- Someone who's pretty only from afar? - Yes.
- From 100 m or so. - This is fun.
- The more you know the better. - "LBSU."
- There's also "Like lime soda". - "Like lime soda"?
- What does that mean? - You're dating someone?
- You're dating someone? - You're dating someone?
A lime soda is refreshing and delightful when cold.
- That refreshing feel. - "Like lime soda."
If you felt confused or worried and a friend...
- If someone helps you out, - You can call me that.
- Problem solved. - you feel relieved.
- "You're like lime soda." - "I feel relieved."
- "You're like lime soda." - "You're like lime soda."
"LBSU."
- "LBSU." - "LUSU."
"LUSU."
- "LUSU." - It's so interesting.
- You seem to know a few. - I do a lot of research.
- You researched it? - Do you make some up, too?
- "LUNF." - "LUNF." What could that mean?
Let's ask Moon Shik, who surprisingly knows a lot.
- "LUNF." - "Learning Under"...
I'm wrong? It's not that?
Moon Shik, sorry but "YEIOO".
We call our fanclub members "Melodies".
Melodies, love you now and forever. LUNF.
So that's "LUNF".
You basically shorten everything.
- No one can guess that. - It's impossible.
It helps to know them.
Sung Jae, what did you think of Hee Jun at first?
I'd heard a lot about how great H.O.T. was
and how legendary they used to be in the past.
I had no idea that Hee Jun was a member.
- Neither did I. - If you see him now...
- Did you think he was a comedian? - I did.
He's plump with huge round eyes.
Always on a diet.
- The guy from the neighbourhood. - A plump friend.
Now he's plump and friendly
- and funny but then... - He was so charismatic.
- He was so amazing. - You have no idea.
His hands were just...
You couldn't see his face behind the curtain of hair.
Back in those days, Sung Jae...
It was an honour to even sit beside me, you know?
- That is very true. - Seriously.
No one dared to even touch his hand.
I touched no one. I had to stay mysterious.
- No one could know how my skin felt. - These days,
idols don't try to be mysterious.
- The trend now is to be approachable. - Exactly.
- In the old days. - "Trend"? "Trend"?
You wouldn't be here if it weren't for me.
He's like a mum.
- I was nice to you... - Hee Jun debuted way before me.
He looks like this now but
- I thought he'd be scary and... - He'd be difficult.
I thought he'd be like that but in the army,
I noticed he's very delicate and feminine.
- In what way? - He's feminine?
- In what way? - When he packed,
he used zip lock bags and post-its
for "hair products", "medicine",
- "facial products"... - That's so meticulous.
- He's neat. - Sung Jae, were there times when
you felt sorry for Hee Jun?
- Yes, a lot of the time. - When?
- He brought a lot of medicine. - Are you sick?
- He'd danced for years. - He has sore joints.
He has no cartilage in the knees.
- He has a sore back. - He's also a bit obese.
Lose some weight.
That's too mean.
- Was he always like that? - Oh, no.
Hee Jun, I don't think
Sung Jae feels awkward around you at all.
- Right? This is so great. - He's fine around you.
I asked if he did a lot in the interview. He said yes.
I told him to relax and not to mind me at all.
You don't have to relax this much though.
Sung Jae, what about Hee Jun surprised you the most?
He's good at controlling his anger.
That's why he's in pain.
- That's what the medicine is for. - The stress.
There's not a lot of freedom in the army
and there are duties you must perform.
He keeps trying and doesn't want to give in.
Even when the drill instructor yelled at him,
- he kept it in. - Were you really angry?
The minute an instructor gives you a certain look,
you know you did something wrong.
I think I apologized for about 10 minutes.
I thought he'd send me back to my spot after that
but he kept on yelling and telling me off.
- He spoke casually to you? - Yes, it's the army.
I held back over and over again,
but at one point, the sorrow and anger became too much.
Trainee 234, Moon Hee Jun!
- Do better next time. - Yes, Sir!
The minute I said that I thought, "Oh no..."
- "It'll be in the preview." - You thought that far?
"I'll get some malicious comments again."
"How dare he shout back to an instructor."
I could imagine what people would say.
After all the hard work you've done...
- Just one outburst in 10 hours... - Exactly.
I didn't hit Seol Hyun.
That's enough.
We're witnesses to that.
He always says he doesn't care about comments.
He says it doesn't bother him.
- I say that. - He's so timid.
- He reads them all. - He sounded worried today.
During Sung Jae's interview, he said that
- the greatest entertainer is Hee Jun. - Really?
It's not Jae Suk or Myung Soo but Hee Jun?
He'd never told me that.
- I called him a monster of sorts. - Why?
I don't mean the gross or ugly kind of monster.
I said that because he's way ahead
and a leader in his own way.
He's a bit like a genius, then.
- He's talented. - He's good at ad-libs and clever.
I worked with him before and
- he's on Cho Hyung Ki's level. - Cho Hyung Ki?
- He reacts so fast. - You're right.
He makes one witty comment and that's it.
He does have a similar frame, too.
- He works hard on variety shows. - He does.
- He's always taking notes. - What do you write?
Do you study variety shows?
The thought hit me one day.
I was a singer and the more I practised,
the better I got on my good days.
If I watch the experts on TV
and take notes, I should be able to learn from them.
- So you study others. - That's when it started.
- I can describe each host's style. - For example?
I watch an episode of a show three times.
The first time around, I just enjoy it.
The second time, I mute the host's comments
and I write down
what question I'd have asked in that situation.
Then I compare what I wrote with what Jae Suk,
Myung Soo or Mi Sun had actually said.
If it's similar, I get chills and I'm thrilled.
"I was on the same page as them."
If my question was different, I'd wonder why.
"Oh, I thought of this and they thought of that."
I think I did that for about four or five years.
That's how you learn.
How much of your ideas match Myung Soo's?
I say zero percent.
I never wrote the same thing Myung Soo said.
My thoughts never matched with his.
He's in his own league.
Did you analyse Shin Dong Yup and Jae Suk's
- styles or personalities? - How could I?
- Just a bit. - Tell us what you thought.
I'll compare everyone to bulldozers, then.
Kim Gu Ra will dig up a pavement to find a treasure.
He makes people uncomfortable.
- You're so right. - He inconveniences others
in his quest for a treasure.
- "I sense something here." Then he digs. - He does.
A little inconvenience is worth it if it's funny.
And he usually does unearth something in the end,
but his guests can feel uncomfortable.
Dong Yup asks for permission beforehand.
Then he digs up the pavement, so he has no problems.
- Then he reaches the treasure. - How about Jae Suk?
- Jae Suk is a master... - A master...
- Before... - Why is he a master?
I used to respect Seo Tae Ji a lot.
Now I respect Jae Suk as much.
- I'm not sure if... - So he's your master?
- Go ahead. It's fine. - Excuse me.
He's convinced a treasure is under the pavement.
But if it's a crowded street and he thinks
it'll inconvenience people, he doesn't dig.
He makes others dig
and lets them say, "We found a treasure."
He motivates others to dig.
The relaxed guests find their own treasures.
It's the Sunshine Policy.
You did a lot of research.
I watch "Happy Together" three, four times
- to see what I did wrong. - We do that.
I basically don't do anything.
People call to say, "You're on a popular show."
"Why do you just sit quietly?"
- I reached a verdict after five weeks. - Which is?
I should quit.
- Don't. - Don't say that.
- There's no need to quit. - Are you sure?
The panel is the toughest role.
Out of the three, the host, guest and panel...
- Her finger... - Theirs is the hardest.
The panel has the hardest time.
My mother called me one day in all seriousness
and asked me what kind of person Myung Soo is.
I asked why, and she said she wants to meet him.
My father thinks there's something he can do
and asked to meet the producer.
Poor you.
They act like I'm a child in school.
- They think they can help. - They do.
I told them to relax, that I'm doing fine.
- Don't worry, he's fine. - He's doing well.
Do you two study variety shows?
- What do you mean? - I heard that Kangnam
meticulously checks the ratings of shows he's on.
- The ratings? - Yes, I check the ratings.
I was on the show "Hello Stranger".
We had fun, we worked hard and we all got along well
but the ratings were too low
so they cancelled the show.
TV stations care a lot about ratings.
We can't completely ignore the ratings.
Does your mood change according to the ratings?
I feel great if the numbers go up.
- Then I worry that it'll drop soon. - That's true.
- He debuted not so long ago. - He's an entertainer.
- He cares about it more than we do. - Wow.
- Sayuri, do you care about ratings? - I do.
I also care who the host is.
- Why? - I'm the guest.
- "Happy Together" is the worst. - Why?
It's Jae Suk. He doesn't like lewd jokes.
- He doesn't like rude or lewd jokes. - He doesn't.
Kim Gu Ra deals with it and works with it.
If I go too far, he follows up with something worse
- so I don't look too bad. - He helps you.
We make it work.
Dong Yup is good at making sexy jokes funny.
Everyone is a model student here
but I have to do well, so I feel pressured.
- You can't go too far. - That's right.
Sayuri, you mentioned your father on other shows.
You said your father had an affair.
My father was a terrible chain smoker.
Once he quit smoking, he took up having affairs.
- If he can't smoke... - He went and had an affair.
I think you have to choose.
If you father hears about this,
wouldn't he tell you to stop talking about it?
No, because he says he's an artist.
He says artists always want to be in love
but he's a real estate agent. He's not an artist.
- He's an artist at heart. - An artist at heart.
An artist at heart.
- He brokers real estate... - An artist at heart.
Maybe he has affairs worthy of art.
- I think he'd stopped now. - Has he?
- Do your parents get along well now? - So well.
They're going on a honeymoon again.
That's good news.
Sayuri, do you tease Kangnam a lot?
- You can lie on April 1st. - It's April Fools' Day.
I lied three years in a row and he fell for all three.
- What did you say? - I called him.
"Kangnam, I was actually a porn actress in Japan."
"A reporter found out."
- "What should I do?" I cried. - What did he say?
I called my manager.
"Sayuri just called. She's in trouble."
"What should she do?" My manager called his boss.
And the boss told his friends.
It got out of control.
- What then? - It was a mess.
I told him I had lied later on.
That's when I started worrying what I should do.
I went to everyone involved and apologized.
That's how I got to meet my CEO after a whole year.
- Then I lied I was in North Korea. - For a shoot?
"I'm stuck here because of visa issues."
"Really? Where are you?" He sounded so worried.
I called my mum, and she called the embassy.
- It got out of hand again. - He's so naive.
- You're naive. - What other lie did you tell?
I said I was married once, and he believed that.
She begged me to set her up with a guy
- so I introduced her to my manager. - That manager?
- That man. - Mr. Choi.
They became really good friends.
- So you met up? - Why didn't it work out?
- Because... - She likes black men.
- What men? - Black men?
Jae Suk, say something back.
Don't just clap. Respond to that.
How is he supposed to respond to that?
- Who's your favourite actor? - Actor?
- Will Smith? - She likes Akon.
- Oh, Akon. - I like Akon and Lee Bong Won.
Why?
- Because of his skit? - He isn't black.
- He's Ural-Altaic. - He's so pure.
- He's pure? - How do you know that?
I worked with him for three months and he's so sweet.
He's pure like an angel.
And as he trusts people easily, his business fails.
- He's so nice. - He's a nice guy.
He is. Should I give him up?
Jung Won, how about you and your love life?
- Are you dating? - Not at the moment.
I started appearing on variety shows because
- people find me tough. - How?
- That I'm tough to approach and talk to. - Are you?
I don't think I'm like that at all
and I do want to be more approachable.
I'm not good with phones.
When I'm dating, the man has to take the lead.
If he doesn't, we lose touch.
- Are you a bad girl? - A bad girl?
- I don't think so. - I don't think she's bad.
- Am I inconsiderate? - She tortures the guy.
- That's right. - It's very tough.
Are you hard to reach?
- Are you? - It's so annoying.
I don't keep my phone close.
I've dated someone like her.
- She... - You're throwing yourself to the wolves.
Here's our treasure.
- Was she a celebrity? - What happened?
- She was an actress. - You dated an actress?
- Who? - I can't tell you who she is.
- Are you lying? - Respect our privacy.
- Don't tell us, then? - Is she pretty?
She was pretty. Like Jung Won, she was feminine
and with a great personality but she was hard to reach.
Three or four hours is bearable.
- That happens. - I can bear that.
It got worse over the first six months.
I couldn't reach her
- for three months. - Isn't that a breakup?
- That's just weird. - Hee Jun, that's just wrong.
- Were you not aware of the breakup? - No.
I could tell she didn't read her messages.
I got very angry.
- Was she a diver? - No, she wasn't.
A diver? She submerged?
It's hard to understand this ad-lib.
That was incredible. I did not expect that.
That can't be learned.
- She disappeared for three months? - He's awesome.
I got angry when I couldn't reach her for three months.
- I called and she was an expert, I guess. - How so?
I told her to tell me if her love for me had cooled.
At least I don't have to waste my time.
She sighed a long sigh.
"I needed time to think about you."
- For three months? - About our relationship.
"That's why I haven't called." Then the tables turn.
"Did I do something wrong?"
"Did I upset you? Did I?
I ended up apologizing.
I think you didn't get the hint.
- She was seeing someone else. - It was over already?
She expected you to get the hint after three months.
- But you called her. - That's just wrong.
If you're going to break up, you have to say so.
"We should end this because of so-and-so."
- If you just give us an ultimatum... - That's right.
- Did you get an ultimatum recently? - I did not.
- No way. - Really?
- I'm 100 percent sure. - Your face turned black.
You're almost black.
I think there's a misunderstanding.
I don't just stop talking to someone.
- Right, that was our topic. - I'd totally forgotten.
- We'd moved on. - I thought it was over.
- Let's go back. - Let's.
- We have to wake up. - Go on.
I don't just ignore my phone.
If there's a man I like or I'm talking to,
I don't just disappear and not call ever again.
It's hard to get to know him at first.
Once we get close, I want to stay in touch
and we keep talking.
- That's it. - That's all what you wanted to say?
- That's incredible. - Choi Jung Won. She's the one.
- She's adorable. - Oddly adorable.
This is our Hardship Special.
Moon Shik, you struggled as a stage actor.
I struggled financially.
I did pretty well as a stage actor
because I was paid 2,000 to 3,000 dollars a year.
- Per year, not per month. - Per year.
- When was this? - I did that for seven, eight years.
I had to work part-time to earn more money.
- I bet you did everything. - I made hamburgers.
I think they cared about looks then, too.
I had to stay in the kitchen.
- I managed the grill. - That's why you're so dark.
You were beside the fire.
Then I delivered newspapers and noodles.
- I even washed water tanks. - Did you?
- The kind you climb into? - That's dangerous.
That was a tough time for me.
I'd quit acting and was earning 60 dollars a day.
Apartment blocks keep water tanks on the roof.
Companies and schools keep them in the basement.
A tank the size of a helipad 20 m underground.
I drain that, eat breakfast, then go in and clean it.
I come out to eat noodles for lunch and go back in.
I finish around dusk and get 60 dollars.
- That was back in 1996, 1997. - That sounds tough.
60 dollars was a lot of money back then.
One day, I cleaned Korea Open University's water tank.
It was spring.
It was freshmen recreation week
with clubs trying to recruit new members.
I was smoking a cigarette with 60 dollars in my pocket
and I looked at the freshmen having fun.
- I looked at the cheeriness of youth. - The energy.
I thought to myself that I once had a dream.
I went to college to be in plays.
But I gave that up to clean tanks for 60 dollars a day.
I realized it was wrong and quit working to act again.
You must have been very poor at the time, then.
You must have struggled.
Things got better for us during the financial crisis.
We were paid the same, but the price of food went down.
- It was always a crisis until then. - It got better.
I was dating my wife at the time.
We went hiking on dates
with a bottle of makgeolli. Walking costs nothing.
- Did she accept that? - She was a stage actor, too.
- That's nice. - I have a question.
Did you audition to be in a film or did they cast you?
No one would voluntarily cast someone with my looks.
I went to auditions and failed many of them.
Even now I think you're meant to fail auditions.
You fail much more often. I had a pager then
and the casting director said I'd get a message.
- I didn't. - They dropped you.
- They did. - Don't you stare at the pager?
"That's strange. They should've called by now."
Then you forget a week later.
We ate pasta or pork cutlet on dates in those days.
- At diners. - I couldn't afford that.
Ramen restaurants were my frequent haunts back then.
- A bowl costs 1.50 dollar back then. - A bowl?
Sometimes I find one that charged two dollars a bowl.
When I find a restaurant that sold for two dollars,
I'd go through my pockets,
- sigh and leave. - Because of 50 cents.
Now I eat as much as I want.
And not just ramen.
Sayuri, did you work part-time as well?
- I did, a lot. - Really?
- I worked at a fast food chain. - In Japan?
Yes, back in Japan.
I look average and maybe even a little smart.
But I really can't calculate.
I gave out too much change and got fired.
You are calculative. You pretend your Korean is poor.
Do you pretend your Korean is poor?
- What are you talking about? - She's flustered.
Kangnam, what do you mean?
- Her Korean is better than this? - It's way better?
She thinks ahead and calculates.
- She's very fluent. - She speaks Korean well?
She's an expert at ordering food over the phone.
- She stutters on TV. - How does she usually speak?
"Two jajangmyeon, one jjamppong."
Can you speak normally?
Not now, there are cameras rolling.
- They pay me here. - She's a true entertainer.
- She is really good. - She's great.
When you were working in Japan,
did men ask you out for coffee?
No, they didn't. I had also worked at a TV station.
What did you do?
There's a famous show with comedians
and they needed people to sit and clap.
Oh, the audience.
But the comedian was boring.
So I didn't smile and just sat like this. I got fired.
- You have to laugh. - I did the same job in Korea.
Early morning talk shows pay a little less.
They pay you six dollars per show.
Politics or current issue shows pay you eight dollars
but you can't sleep.
- It's tough. - First day I knew no one on the show.
- It's easy to focus if you know a celebrity. - Yes.
People I didn't know kept talking about politics.
- Were you sleepy? - At first...
The manager did this.
I mouthed "I'm sorry."
I know what you mean. It's torture.
- It's so boring. - You feel so sleepy.
- If you're sleepy... - I slapped myself
but I got a warning for the noise.
I finally woke up at the end of the show.
Apparently I'd fallen asleep.
- I thought, "Oh, no." - During a live show?
Yes, it was live.
Kangnam, before you became famous in Korea,
it must have been hard not having an income.
- It was. - How did you manage?
I got up, showered and went to the agency
where they served breakfast and that was it.
Did you have no money at all?
I had almost none, but... Is it called royalty?
- I got 100 to 200 dollars a month. - In royalties?
- I lived off that. - Do you compose?
- I write lyrics. - Rap?
- He writes rap. - At a singing course.
The toughest thing was...
I was a musician even before I came to Korea.
- I was the vocalist of a rock band. - A rock band.
Korean singers are popular worldwide now
and K-pop is popular, so I wanted to go to Korea.
I happened to meet my CEO in Japan.
He suggested I move to Korea.
- With him? - I had a week to pack up.
I had two more years left in college
but I gave it up.
- I gambled my future. - You quit school.
Yes, but my CEO hadn't even heard me sing.
I just said hello and he hired me.
So I flew to Korea and tried to record a song,
- and he was totally shocked. - Why?
My pronunciation was terrible.
I'd given up my future and college to come to Korea,
but he said, "If you don't improve in a month,"
"go back to Japan."
He was that cruel.
I was so shocked and worried about what to do.
I took classes with future anchors
and trained with them, speaking with a pen in my mouth.
That's how I got where I am now.
- You're good. - Your pronunciation is good.
I wasn't fired.
- What happened to the band? - We disbanded.
- Did you talk about it first? - We did.
When you left the band to fly to Korea,
didn't a woman hit your head at the airport?
- What's that about? - This is like a drama.
- There they go again. - What do you mean?
- She grabbed his hair and hit him. - A woman did?
- She hit Kangnam? - She was at the airport.
It happened at Haneda Airport in Japan.
I was seeing someone at the time.
I wanted to be cool and disappear without a word.
- That's cool? - Were you running away?
I wanted her to see me in TV one day and feel proud
but I guess she found out. She was at the airport.
My mum and dad were there, too.
While they had gone to get coffee,
my girlfriend appeared and surprised me.
Then she suddenly slapped me.
I looked up in shock and saw
that my parents were more shocked.
- "What happened to our son?" - What happened then?
My girlfriend wouldn't stop crying.
The four of us went to a cafÃ© for a chat,
my parents talked to her and we wrapped it all up.
It feels like a soap opera.
- Kangnam went through a lot. - He did.
- You deserved a slapping. - I'm sorry.
- Are you apologizing to her? - Sorry, Minami.
We have six guests
on our Hardship Special.
- It's time to vote for someone. - Is there a prize?
Everyone can tell a story to win a pack of beef.
- Shall we start with Kangnam? - Kangnam.
Tell us the worst struggle you ever had.
First of all, I'm from Japan.
I wanted to get closer with my agency staff.
They felt uncomfortable around me.
I wanted to get close to them
and maybe even become good friends.
I wondered what I could do
and I noticed they went to Internet cafÃ©s.
I wondered what they did and saw they played games.
I tagged along and took note of what they played
but I couldn't play any of them.
We practised and recorded in the mornings
so I went to an Internet cafÃ© every morning at dawn.
I learned how to play the games the staff played.
I basically played games then went to practice.
The trainee days are the worst time for any singer.
- That was a struggle? - To make friends?
- To make friends. - How is that a struggle?
Games are boring if you're forced to play.
You have to want to play.
Forget about everything else.
You played online games to befriend your staff
- for two years? - Two years?
Did that help?
- It made things worse. - Why?
I started beating them.
- You should lose. - I'm bad at letting others win.
- You kept winning. - Yes, I did.
- Too bad. - Too bad.
Sayuri, what did you go through?
- I was on a food show for four years. - You were.
It's not like your usual variety show.
- They sometimes film for three, four days. - Yes.
To film a 30-second scene of me catching anchovies,
- I had to stay on a boat for eight hours. - At sea?
Yes, but I could deal with that.
I once went to China for a food show.
We went to a famous spot in China to shoot the opening
and the producer wanted me to look funny.
He brought out a crew-cut wig and a Chinese dress,
told me to put it on and dress funny.
It's funny if a comedian does it.
But if I do it,
- it's crude, awkward, embarrassing. - That's right.
I told the producer I was willing and could do it
but that it wouldn't help the ratings
and would get cut out anyway.
And I told him to think it over.
But he insisted it would be fun, so I did it.
I put on the disguise and danced for 20 minutes.
A huge crowd gathered around me.
I thought they had gathered because they were upset
over what I wore and what I was doing.
The guide who spoke Mandarin told me that
the crowd felt sorry for me, a woman, acting silly.
I wore a wig and a tight dress and danced like this
while going up and down a staircase.
They only aired about 10 seconds of me doing that.
It's tough mentally than it is physically.
- You feel embarrassed as a woman. - That's right.
- I forced laughter. - Female comedians can relate.
Do you have to say something is good when it isn't?
- Restaurant owners complain to you. - That's fine.
But when my odd comments about food became popular,
shows kept casting me to eat strange foods.
- So I ate cockroaches. - Cockroaches?
None of the others hosts ate any.
But someone has to if the show is to be entertaining.
No one else ate any, so I said I would.
That's when I wondered if I had to go so low for money.
- That's tough. - What do roaches taste like?
They're like having your husband
run an illegal gambling ring at home.
Your husband running an illegal gambling ring?
- What taste is that? - Deadly bitter.
- You went through a lot too. - She suffered greatly.
Could anyone beat that?
- That's hard to beat. - Did any of you struggle?
- There's meat up for grabs. - Can anyone beat her?
I told a little story about my financial struggles
but we actors...
I took out a tooth for "Iljimae".
A perfectly healthy tooth? For your character?
Lee Jun Ki played Iljimae.
I was offered the role of his father.
I was in "Damo" many years ago.
I played Machukji, Ha Ji Won's assistant.
I thought the two roles were too similar.
I thought they had to be different
or I wouldn't stand out much.
My conclusion was I should take out a tooth
or do something to my appearance.
Once I said that to myself, I quite liked the idea.
I asked the producer and writer their thoughts on it.
"We think it would help a lot."
"But you need to work after this, so don't do it."
I went to a dentist the next day.
- I took out a tooth. - Which one?
This tooth is an implant.
- Everyone must be shocked. - "Why did you do that?"
The writer changed the script to add a torture scene
where they took out my tooth.
Until that scene came, I stuck my tooth in the gap.
After that scene, I took it off and acted with the gap.
In hindsight I realized that
- teeth have living nerves inside. - Of course.
Implants don't make you salivate.
So my mouth is always dry.
That's why it's best to stay natural.
You're putting too much pressure on other actors.
- They'll feel pressured to do the same. - Yes.
- They'll have to take out two teeth. - Exactly.
The producer jokingly calls me a self-mutilator.
Jung Won, did you break up with a man for a drama?
Yes, I was cast in a role.
All dramas require a lot of focus
but this drama required a little extra.
So I broke up with my then-boyfriend for the drama.
- For real? - Yes.
"I have to work so let's break up"?
You're a lot like the actress I dated.
- Isn't that too much? - You didn't love him much.
I guess not.
- But I regretted breaking up with him. - Why?
It helps to be in love when you're acting
- because it makes you happy. - It does.
I was struggling and couldn't stay in character.
- Did you meet up after that? - Did you call him?
- I met him once more. - Did you call him?
- Did you call him when you were drunk? - You did?
- I knew it. - Did you really?
I did just once.
You pulled your teeth while you broke up with a guy.
We would go to extremes for a drama.
A lot can happen on a set.
I almost died once.
I was to be hit by a bus and disappear.
I was connected to a wire
and when the bus hit me, I was to fly out of the shot.
When the bus hit me, I had to fly backwards first.
I could hardly fly straight up.
- It has to look feasible. - Like you were hit.
The wire guys pulled me up so fast that I flew up,
so the producer stopped the scene.
But the wire guys just let go of me.
I was hanging 20m above ground when they let go.
The bus was moving and the crowd screamed.
The guys heard the screams, saw me and grabbed hold.
So I freefell, and then was pulled up before the bus passed.
- That sounds so scary. - It could've gone bad.
- That's scary. - You call that method acting.
You're all amazing.
Hee Jun, what about your struggles?
- I was once the icon of struggles. - You were.
I got a lot of love then a lot of hate.
Now I get almost no malicious comments online.
- Really? - Really.
- I haven't seen any. - That took a long time.
If I look back at all that I'd gone through,
- I got so much love and attention in H.O.T. - Yes.
So I struggled the most when all that changed.
Even before the media and fans became an issue,
I was already distant from my fellow singers.
When I was in H.O.T.,
people treated me like they do Sung Jae.
I wanted to do well on variety shows
because I'd always enjoyed watching them.
When I first started,
the hosts never teased the guests back in the 90s.
- They only praised them. - They gave compliments.
- They laughed at boring jokes. - Yes, they did.
- SBS had a show called "Best Friend's Note". - Yes.
- Myung Soo was on that. - I remember that.
- Do you? - Yes, I do.
- I'm curious. - That was the first time when...
- I realized my circumstances had changed. - How?
As soon as he came in and saw me, he said,
"Oh, what's this random guy doing here?"
I went from a celebrity to a random guy.
Everything had changed.
- He was so rude. - I'm sorry.
- It's fine. - He just wanted to be funny.
I know he meant to be funny.
- I wasn't prepared. - You couldn't laugh at that.
So I went home and thought about it.
- I learned two lessons. - What are they?
Myung Soo enlightened me so much that day.
It's best if I think I'm back to being a rookie.
That's the first lesson. And the second one is
even if it's for laughs, I must not attack someone.
That was great. You're like lime soda.
- You helped him out. - Kim Gu Ra was the host.
- Yes, Kim Gu Ra. - Two horrible men on either side.
- Right. - Doesn't stress cause you to lose weight?
- It's the opposite. - That's a separate issue.
- You went on diets. - That was another disaster.
- I got sick trying to lose weight. - For example?
- I got shingles. - Because of a diet?
- That hurts. - Turns out it is.
I once ate only sweet potatoes for two weeks.
Just sweet potatoes? How much weight did you lose?
I lost 18 kg when I had the shingles.
- Wow. - I'd just left the army and was skinny then.
I weighed 58 kg.
- You were skinny. - 58 kg?
- It's tough in the army. - Talking about diet,
I ate two meals a day for six months.
- Now I eat just one meal. - A day?
My family doesn't eat breakfast.
Then we eat a healthy lunch
and eat sweet potatoes or something for dinner.
- Don't your children need to eat? - They're fine.
They're used to it and thanks to that schedule,
we have a lot of free time in the morning.
- I read that... - Is this your idea?
Shouldn't children eat?
They can't watch TV or eat three meals.
- No breakfast. - Just a meal a day.
Sung Jae is the youngest of our six guests here today,
nonetheless, have you struggled before?
Hearing everyone else's stories,
- I have nothing on them. - But still...
- I did suffer some injustice once. - How so?
- It was when I was a trainee. - That's a tough time.
It was always school, studio and home.
I got bored of the routine.
I wanted to sneak out and do something else.
So one day I went to a theatre to see a film
where I happened to meet an employee of my agency.
The next day they treated me like a criminal.
- They were so serious. - Because you saw a film?
They made me write a letter of apology
and take it around to get everyone's signature.
- That's harsh. - So...
- Your current agency? - Yes, there are 60 employees.
I see what you mean.
They wanted you to learn a lesson.
So did you leave that agency?
- It's his current agency. - Does she speak Korean?
The real struggle is when he leaves that agency
and can't find another one.
- Get her some medicine. - I think she needs some.
- You mean to wish him luck, don't you? - I do.
We've heard five stories so far.
- Who should win the beef? - Do we vote?
- Can we vote? - Yes, we can.
I must vote for a foreigner who had to eat roaches.
- I vote for Sayuri. - What about you, Shin Young?
Every one of you suffered at one point of time,
but Hee Jun suffered the most emotionally.
- He should eat. - What about you, Myung Soo?
I have to vote for the man who pulled out a tooth.
He's doing so well on "Brave Family", too.
Who do you vote for, Mi Sun?
You all suffered, but I vote for
the youngest one here, Sung Jae.
- Are you going by age? - It's up to Jae Suk.
It's up to me now.
I don't know who to vote for. You all had a rough time.
- The candidates... - Sayuri, Hee Jun, Moon Shik
and Sung Jae all have a vote each.
- Hee Jun's on a diet. - No beef for him.
- How decisive. - So he's out.
- As for Sayuri? - Me?
I know you struggled but
you eat a lot of good food for variety shows.
- I ate a lot, too. - Moon Shik deserves to win
but like you said, it should go to the young man.
I vote for Sung Jae.
Thank you.
- Share it with your BTOB members. - Thanks so much.
- I'll struggle from now on. - Yes, you do that.
I'll work harder.
- I'll try. - You'll do things you don't want to.
- Thank you. - You're welcome.
Thank you for joining us today.
We'll see you again next week.
- Thank you. Bye. - Thank you.